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Dealing with the sexuality issue

Has Anyone Asked The Women?  Or, well, how about asking the LGBT folks?
[3-6-07]

Becce Bettridge, Director of the Network of Presbyterian Women in Leadership, attended the recent New Wineskins Association of Churches' Convocation in Orlando, Florida. As she summarizes her experience, "New Wineskins [has] issued their strategy for congregations to leave the PCUSA and join with the EPC (Evangelical Presbyterian Church). New Wineskins perceives this realignment as an opportunity for PCUSA congregations to be united with a denomination they consider to be a more faithful body of believers. As I engaged in conversations with members of the EPC and listened to speakers representing the EPC, I found myself asking questions about the ordination of women as officers in the proposed New Wineskins-EPC churches."

In response to this experience, she wrote an essay entitled "Has anyone asked the women?"

One concerned Presbyterian woman, Karen Ellen Kavey of Chappaqua, New York, responded to her with this open letter, which she has kindly shared with us:


To: the Director of the Network of Presbyterian Women in Leadership


Dear Becce Bettridge,

I am writing you in response to your remarkable essay entitled: "Has Anyone Asked the Women? which I read on The Layman website.

Your article asked several excellent questions regarding the role of women officers in the proposed New Wineskins-EPC churches.

I was impressed with your clarity in describing your legitimate concerns that others may use their interpretations of the Scriptures to deny you and other women equality and the opportunity to serve in leadership positions.

Your language resonated with me deeply. Though your article showed restraint and respect for others, I felt your surprise, sense of betrayal and indignation in those questions.

It was completely evocative of inner experiences that I have had.

Of course one can easily find Biblical passages which prohibit the leadership of women and even command women to be silent.

But you are not silent. And you show strength in addressing your concerns.

The Bible has always been used to uplift, but also, unfortunately, to oppress. Racism, anti-Semitism, slavery, segregation and the subjugation of women: all these things have been supported by people using specific Biblical interpretations.

And all these things have been wrong.

In reading your Questions, I felt that I had rarely read a more accurate, heartfelt and well-reasoned questioning of how it feels to be on the Outside, to be Suspect, to be denied equality on the basis of someone else’s interpretation of Scripture.

It is very understandable that you are fearful of your future in a non-inclusive environment.

You recognize that your absence or presence in a new church is a matter considered "non-essential" to others. You fear you may be patronized or overlooked. Everyone will assume pastors will be male (or should be).

This is not a good start.

On the other hand, being considered Suspect, Unworthy or an Outsider for a while is a good, though painful way, to learn about the daily experience of others and makes very personal and compelling the teaching: "Do unto others..."

As an affirming parent of a gay son, I would say that you captured the exact feelings of so many individuals I know whose families are constantly being ignored or demeaned.

My eyes have been opened to the devastation wrecked by endemic discrimination based on Scriptural interpretation and you have captured this experience with your words. Your anger, indignation and trepidation resonate with me.

I know that not everyone is blessed to have a gay child or sibling. And it sometimes takes people years of struggle to understand. But those of us who are blessed in this way can tell you that the transformation that they experience is not one of policies and organizations, but of spirit.

I have no doubt that gay people will eventually live in full equality and I am very optimistic that the time will be sooner rather than later.

The Network of Presbyterian Women in Leadership website reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of homosexuality.

The mainstream scientific community clearly informs us and our internal experience as heterosexuals confirms that sexual orientation is an innate core part of our identity. To reject these understandings in order to prop up an entrenched ideological bias against a minority is regrettable. It leads only to alienation, frustration and heartbreak for so many families and so many faith communities.

An unsettling question haunts me: How can someone, such as yourself, feel and express such genuine, palpable, well-reasoned concern for themselves regarding inequality, especially inequality based on interpretation of Scripture, and not feel this very same concern for others?

If, instead of the word "women", you had substituted all minorities into your wonderful Questions, it would be a perfect essay….a letter for all God’s people.

I continue to puzzle over this.

The irony is profound and startling to me. And I say that as a woman.

Thank you for reading my letter and for the opportunity to have this exchange.

Yours in Christ,

Karen Ellen Kavey

Chappaqua, New York


Ms. Kavey wrote another reflective piece less than a year ago, about how our church is content to treat LGBT people as "collateral damage" for the sake of defending some kind of "purity."

If you'd like to offer your comments,
either on the New Wineskins' proposals for separation,
or on the notes from Ms.
Bettridge and/or Ms. Kavey,
please send a note
to be shared here.

Response time ... and Collateral Damage
[6-6-06]

As the 217th General Assembly approaches, this thoughtful reflection comes from a frequent Witherspoon visitor, Karen Ellen Kavey, of Chappaqua, New York.

 
Since the PC(USA) officially... as a whole body....has no direct ministry toward LGBT individuals or their families, it does not hear the cries of the people.

So it is easier and "more comfortable" putting things off.

The denomination is able to successfully ignore (or at least minimize) the tremendous stress and angst out there.

And, because of this, many do not have a palpable sense of urgency about this issue..... or understand the immense amount of damage inequality does to real people... all day, every day.

It's always easier to wait if someone else is the "collateral damage" in any given struggle. Unfortunate, but true.

This is human nature and often considered politically expedient.

However: exclusion...or slow-motion efforts toward inclusion... do not alter the reality that:

Young people die as a result of institutionalized discrimination. Families are destroyed. There is no doubt about that.

I continue to feel hopeful (not sure why) but sometimes I feel as though I'm calling the Fire Department, only to be told: "Perhaps ....if we can get a consensus....we can come over next Tuesday (or Wednesday)....We're continuing to discuss it.....We'll see...."

The denomination needs to take full responsibility for their actions or inactions....whatever they may be. And needs to be much less resistant to hearing about the consequences of those actions or inactions.

May God help us all in these days.....

Karen

Karen Ellen Kavey
Chappaqua, New York

 

Some blogs worth visiting

 

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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Plan now for our 2010 Ghost Ranch Seminar!

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July 26-August 1, 2010

WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
CONFRONTING THE STRUCTURES OF INJUSTICE

 

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