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Ordination and Lisa Larges |
| Lisa Larges denied certification for ministry because of
her convenantal relationship
[4-9-04] Paul Peterson of That All
May Freely Serve-Michigan sends the following report.
Dear TAMFS-Michigan friends,
With sadness I share the news that Lisa
Larges, the regional partnership coordinator for TAMFS national was turned
down in her request to be certified ready for ministry. The only reason was
that she was open and frank about her covenantal relationship with her
same-sex partner. The vote was 15-5 on the Committee for Preparation of
Ministry. Below is the official statement from TAMFS national on the
decision. Please hold Lisa in prayer. And pray that our denomination will
repent from the pain it inflicts on LGBT persons who are called by Christ to
positions of leadership.
Paul
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That All May Freely Serve is deeply grieved
and heart sick at the action taken by the Preparation Committee of the San
Francisco Presbytery which voted not to send Lisa Larges forward for
ordination, but to continue her as a candidate. If there is anyone who
exemplifies the best of what a Presbyterian minister can be, it is Lisa.
Lisa's deep faith in God centers her and
resources her. We know and have experienced firsthand Lisa's amazing gifts
for ministry, her eloquent preaching, her pastoral care and the way she
listens and responds with practical compassion. Her work within our 8
regions demonstrates her ability to inspire, empower, and organize. Lisa has
helped to forge a network of loving connections.
How disturbing it is that this decision was
made during Holy Week! Jesus witnessed against the authorities of the time
who were threatened by his radical honesty and his ability to fight the
systemic oppressions of his time....rich vs. poor, the labeling of outcasts,
and the issues of class and race. San Francisco Presbytery had an
opportunity to make the realm of God more imminent, touchable, relevant, and
alive today as Jesus did then.
Our Denomination could have given hope to
those who are systematically kept out of leadership by rules that exclude
even the church's own children. This is the same Presbyterian church in
which Lisa was raised by loving parents and in which her faith was nurtured.
Once more Holy Week reminds us of the
disastrous effects of oppressive systems. This exclusive policy flies in the
face of God's hospitality.
Denying Lisa the opportunity to minister in
the grand, loving, beautiful way that she does is unconscionable to us!
We appreciate Lisa's willingness to pursue
her call from God in the face of the barriers erected by men and women. We
will continue to work for the day when Lisa (and All others) may freely
serve.
Once again the poignant question is raised,
what shall our LGBT people do about their calls from God and from the
communities of faith which lift them up and nurture them for ministry?
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John Shuck, Witherspoon chapter founder in Montana, sends this note:
Lisa, you have been called by God to
preach the good news which you have done. You have been and continue to be a
blessing to so many including me. I think I can speak for all who are
working and praying for an inclusive church in Montana when I say that we
are grateful to you and for you and share in your sadness as well in the
hurt caused by the rejection by the church of God's children.
John Shuck
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For Ray Bagnuolo, the action of the
Committee on Preparation for Ministry of San
Francisco Presbytery occasions some Good Friday reflections under the title,
"In a Word, No!"
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In a
Word, “No!”
from Ray
Bagnuolo
[4-9-04]
I
have been checking the alternative websites focused on undermining our
movement.
You
know the ones. I figure that as soon as they pick up the news about the
spiritual roadblock placed in front of Lisa by the SF Presbytery that they
will be sure to use this as some sign of “push back” against the queer
community. It’s pretty much the same type of spin they use to suggest that
the increasing number of votes against overtures to end exclusion indicate
a growing anti-LGBT core in our church. Ironically, many of those
increasing number of votes are actually people voting “No” as part of the
strategy to postpone any confrontation in the church until 2006 – the
“wait for the right time” approach.
I
have long said that I am in favor of full, active, and engaged efforts to
remove G-6.0106b at every turn, whether the odds are good or not. It’s
about a voice always being there and always loving those who are
marginalized with clear and unmistakable support.
Once
more, there are overtures to remove G-6.0106b from the Book of Order at
GA. Will these sacred documents out of the hearts and souls of their
authors suffer the same demise as last year’s orchestrated response? If
so, who accepts the consequences? Who pays the price of such delay in
human and spiritual terms? Why, we do.
For
me, the exercises of debate on scripture, theology, and polity are fine
for the classroom, but at then end of most lectures there is generally
no blood on the floor. One has only had to look down at the floor of GA to
see the difference between the classroom and our past and present reality.
Praxis needs to reach the table and the floor.
Our
Christian church and movement, in general, simply refuses to take
responsibility for the violence we accept, deny, promote, and foster by
continuing to exclude people who are LGBT from our church. We stand upon
brothers and sisters who have fallen and are yet to fall, victims of our
higher concerns for unity and order. On Good Friday, this seems especially
hard to process.
This
week was no exception. The spiritual blood was on the floor of a committee
room in San Francisco. Above the pool of blood was another crucifixion of
the notion that love and commitment between two people of the same-sex can
be as holy or sacred as that between a man and a woman. Once more the
belief emerged that people committed to such love of God, self, and one
another was criteria for being held back from a call to serve.
The
violence done to one of our own and what she represents for us all is
enormous and chilling. Yet, it seems that the “Van Kuiken Effect” has
taken the place of what should be outrage. Perhaps you remember how Steve
was roundly criticized by some for not taking a softer approach to the
rights for us queer folk that burned in his heart. I can hear the same
echoing about Lisa: “She should have known better.” “If only she would
have waited.” “Why did she have to challenge them like this?” “She should
have known better.”
Around the websites this morning, only one makes any reference to Lisa’s
being denied clearance for ordination. That All May Freely Serve
released a statement that can be read in its entirety at
www.tamfs.org. Where is everyone else? What, in God’s name, holds us
back, I wonder?
To
those voices, you know the ones: “Why do you people have to cause so much
trouble for yourselves?” “Can’t you just wait and be a little more
circumspect and quiet?” “Just give this a couple of more years, will you?”
In a word, “No.”
Ray
Bagnuolo, Good Friday, April 9, 2004
[Please feel free to distribute as you wish.]
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Some blogs worth visiting |
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Voices of Sophia blog
Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog
for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:
After fifteen years of scholarship and activism,
Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of
feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students,
exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and
devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in
whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God
through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through
articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and
thoughtful community. |
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Witherspoon’s Facebook page
Mitch Trigger, Witherspoon’s
Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where
Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and
views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both
personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!
You can post your own news and views, or initiate
a conversation about a topic of interest to you. |
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John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot
Theological and philosophical reflections on
everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing,
religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture,
travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the
Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City
Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon
board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in
Flushing, NY. |
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John
Shuck’s Shuck and Jive
A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as
pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs
about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and
disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening
up. |
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GHOST RANCH SEMINAR
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